No currently you are not legally forced to have one, but so many things as you point out ask for one and I am not sure there is a way around that if you want to use those services. You could ask but then you are the asshole requiting office staff to work a completely different way to how all their systems work and some of them will probably just blank refuse to deal with the headache.

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8:30 PM | A Wellington County OPP officer observed the driver of a blue pickup truck commit a driving infraction. The officer attempted perform a traffic stop but the driver sped off. The driver was observed travelling away from police at a speed well above the posted 40km/h speed limit of the roadway. Officers again tried to perform a traffic stop of the driver on Beaty Line, Centre Wellington, and again the driver failed to stop for police. The driver was observed on Wellington Road 8, Mapleton, travelling well above the posted 80km/h speed limit. The driver was finally stopped on Wellington Road 18, Centre Wellington. A16-year-old driver from Mapleton Township was charged with numerous offences, including ‘dangerous operation,’ ‘flight from a peace officer’ (two counts), ‘drive motor vehicle – perform stunt – excessive speed’ (two counts), ‘operate unsafe vehicle,’ ‘class G1 licence holder – unaccompanied by qualified driver,’ and ‘class G1 licence holder – carry front-seat passenger.’ The vehicle was seized as per statute and accused is scheduled to appear in Ontario Court of Justice – Guelph, at a later date.

In addition to the benefits that will come with having an objective video recording of an interaction between an officer and member of the public, police say the integrated ALPR functionality will dramatically enhance the ability of an officer to detect licence plates that are linked with criminal or traffic offences. Examples would include plates associated with wanted or missing people, stolen vehicles, stolen or unattached licence plates, suspended and prohibited drivers and with other emergent situations like amber alerts.

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Tried this one myself, on the pretends of it being a routine inquiry when I got stopped, more than once. All because we’d been observed chatting a handful of times, and my car was in his driveway when police drove past auto scanning license plates.

These technologies will be used to gather enhanced evidence to be used in the prosecution of offences and will also highlight the professionalism our members display every day as they work to ensure safe communities, police said in a release.

10:05 AM | Perth County OPP responded to reports of a mischief to flashing red lights on railway crossings in Perth East which they say could cause a major, potentially fatal hazard to motorists. It was determined that unknown person(s) have damaged flashing red lights at multiple railway crossings between Forest Road and Road 108 in the Township of Perth East. The investigation is ongoing.

10:03 AM | Waterloo Regional Police received a report of a two-vehicle collision in St. Jacobs. A green Chevrolet was heading east on Sawmill Road and attempted to make a right hand turn onto Parkside Drive. The Chevrolet slid into a black Nissan, which was stopped facing north at a stop sign on Parkside Drive. Weather and road conditions were a factor in the collision.

Area OPP detachments report they’ve now installed and activated the automated licence plate recognition (ALPR) and in-car camera systems in all patrol vehicles.

If you’re super tinfoil hat, you can also look at it on the flipside and say that smartphones enable more privacy via encrypted calls and messaging, and the ability to use stuff like VPNs (which you shouldn’t 100% trust for privacy unless you run the other end, also).

Phones are in no way compulsory, but as others and yourself have already stated, they’re a technology that you’re just expected to have for convenience sake. Managing a world as connected as ours without the ability to instantly call or text someone, especially from a governmental point of view, would be hell.

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And my other question is - is it relatively easy to track a person who doesn’t carry a phone via other phones of other people who are around this person?

I wouldn’t necessarily do that during every season. Be it summer with 50°C+ in the car or winter with -10°C (or even lower in some regions), batteries don’t like that.

They would come later or as an option for people who don’t want a contactable device but still ID. You won’t sell.people over night on stuff like that. Gotta ease them in with something familiar, then maybe an NFC fob or something, then sell the convenience of not carrying or losing it by having an implant version. Baby steps, that’s how you get people to agree to insane stuff.

As an interim step you might want to consider a simple dumb phone. The other thing, just because you have one doesn’t mean you have to have it on you.

9:00 AM | A 22-year-old Mississauga woman died as a result of a single-vehicle collision in the area of Bridge Street East and Ebycrest Road in Woolwich Township. Police determined that a Mini Cooper was travelling west on Bridge Street East when it left the roadway and struck a snowbank and a hydro wire before coming to a stop in a wooded area. The driver was transported to a local hospital where she was pronounced deceased. Anyone with information or who may have dash-cam video is asked to call police at 519-570-9777, ext. 8856. To submit anonymous tips, please call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 or online at www.waterloocrimestoppers.com.

You aren’t currently required to carry a government surveillance device on your person at all times, yet, in any country of the world. But for convenience most members of society have at least a land line, if not a cellphone.

Already being done to some degree in Sweden, not forced tho. When it comes to religious nut jobs, there aren’t that many here that it would be a problem. However, with the facial recognition and camera surveillance, all that’s needed is social status points like in China. At that point, forced phone is bordering to not even be worth the hassle.

As a result of in investments made by government in the OPP and municipal police services in the province, the OPP is introducing in-car (ICC) video recording equipment with an integrated ALPR functionality to all its frontline police vehicles at detachments across Ontario.

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I can understand ID and in some sense agree with that. But with a forced phone, I can’t agree. But knowing politicians they are always ready to think of something sick …

Legit, OP, theresxno reason to have a phone. Phones aren’t gangstalking devices, they aren’t little chinese spies. Don’t listen to boomers, or be a boomer. A phone is there to be convenient. I hack my phones to learn how they work. Its… fun. And to be frank, if your phone doesn’t do anythitg for you but get you robocalls and be an annoying pile of shit, then pull the sim, buy a ting sim, sell it on ebay, don’t worry about it.

But who knows, with all the fear mongering these days, I don’t think it would be too difficult for a politician to pull something out of their ass. Was done here, all phones are being tracked and logged, against human rights. Under the pretends that it’s needed to prevent terrorist attacks.

Unless you’re an obvious target for hackers/whoever because of your career or whatever, there’s no real reason to forgo your own convenience for the tiny amount of privacy you might scrape back.

Area OPP detachments report they’ve now installed and activated the automated licence plate recognition (ALPR) and in-car camera systems in all patrol vehicles. As a result of in investments made by government in the OPP and municipal police services in the province, the OPP is introducing in-car (I

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2:24 PM | A single-vehicle occurred when a vehicle heading south on Sandhills Road near Witmer Road in Wilmot Township encountered heavy slush and was pulled off the roadway, striking a hydro pole. The driver of the vehicle did not sustain any injuries and hydro attended to repair the cracked pole. Weather and road conditions were reported to be a factor.

1:35 PM | Police received a report of single-vehicle collision in Wellesley Township.  A vehicle was heading east on Weimar Line near Greenwood Hill Road when the driver lost control of the vehicle, slid off the roadway and struck a hydro pole. The driver of the vehicle and a passenger sustained minor physical injuries. Damage to the pole was minimal and hydro was notified. Weather and road conditions were a factor.

4:40 PM | Police received a report from Peel Regional Police that a license plate belonging to a resident of Woolwich Township had been located in their region on a vehicle it was not registered to. Police spoke with the plate owner who was unaware that their plate had been stolen. It is believed that the plate was stolen between January 1 and March 11.  The stolen plate of the Woolwich Township resident had been replaced with a plate registered to a resident of Baden that had not yet been reported stolen.

2FA you can have anywhere. PC, Laptop, Tablet, dedicated smartphone, Windows, Linux, Android, iOS … You can find OTP applications for everything. I do it, I use an old machine with no access to the network only to 2FA and logs in on another one works perfectly and I do not have to touch the phone, although it is definitely not a mobile solution.

Seriously. The world is a big, beautiful place. Being this paranoid and terrified of dumb technology (because at the end of the day, it is still very dumb) is no way to go through life. Unplug, go outside, get a dog, start dating, hit up a pub.

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Some people remove themselves from the hustle and bustle of normal society, and live completely off grid. Others have no choice, as vast swathes of land have no cell signal, so a cell phone isn’t an option. But these groups simply have to deal without the convenience of being able to access the forum on the go at any time.

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@TimHolus plenty of schools now require students have a tablet for books and work, get em young… So they will be default have these things going into their life. If children have to have a device, why not everyone? What’s good for the goose and all that crap.

I know a couple of people that have a mobile phone but it lives in their car. Just in case they break down, it’s in the car and turned off.

I carry a Galaxy s6 with no active service simply because I can’t afford the service, its essentially a small wifi tablet and I don’t get robocalls, take that boomers

Some countries already have laws requiring an ID card at all times. A cellphone would not be a massive further step, in today’s world. Not a Great Leap Forward for mankind, but a small step the boiling frog may not jump to avoid…

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Hey guys, For a long time I’ve been carrying a Samsung smartphone that I almost never use because I don’t find any value in any of the apps. I do all of my messaging at home and I am considering going 100% phoneless for simplicity and privacy sake. What I am wondering is whether it’s legal to not have a phone and a phone number at all? For example a lot of govt application forms have a phone number field, a lot of banking application forms have a phone number field and a lot things require 2FA which I think requires a phone as well (in some cases it works with email too).

9:38 PM | Waterloo Regional Police received a report from a Woolwich resident that sometime in the days prior, a vehicle parked on Katherine Street had its rear license plate removed and replaced with a plate that was later determined to be stolen. Anyone with information can contact police or Waterloo Region Crime Stoppers.

For that, they’d have to know who you associate with. Facebook, Twitter, phone logs, etc. Anything that digitally links you to them. Best friend is a gang member, you’d be attached to his gang as an associate.

If you really need to provide a phone number then buy a virtual number or some cheap separate 2/3G phone and a cheap sim card and keep only at home for the most urgent situations. I do so with prepaid where I have only $2.5 and the number is valid for two years without paying.

In all seriousness though, as much as there’s a the potential for a lot of nefarious goings on with smartphones and even dumb mobiles, the majority of tracking is just used to make money off your usage of free software. Don’t use the software - you don’t really have much to be worried about.

Definitely not. Phones are easy and friendly. Too many religious nuts would freak out about implants being the devils mark.

My God … A day when a country will require a citizen to have a telephone number under pressure and legal threat will mean that the day has come when you should pack your bags and look for a new place to live!

And my other question is - is it relatively easy to track a person who doesn’t carry a phone via other phones of other people who are around this person?